The greatest potential for going from 25,000g to the gold cap of 214748g is transferring servers. However, this also presents the greatest risk and needs the most preparation. First off, transferring costs money. If you go to a server, transferring back as soon as the cool down is up is expensive and impractical. You should look for a server that you can stay on for at least 6 months to a year before transferring back with your huge profit. However, the maximum amount of gold that a max character can transfer is only 20,000. Therefore, you need to purchase goods that are going to net you the most profit when you go to sell them on the new server's auction house. Primarily, these are enchanting mats, but can also be BoE epics depending on the two servers. Before making a risky decision such as transferring, consult the questions below.
Aug 26 Welcome to Warcraft - Frequent Questions Hello all, and welcome to World of Warcraft! This can be a very rewarding game and offers a variety of cool experiences with the chance to meet some interesting folks. We'd all like to extend a hearty welcome to the newest members of our ever-growing community and wish you the best of luck in your gaming experience. Before we get started, one of the first questions you might be asking is why the text of certain posters is in green or blue. Green is because those posters are forum MVPs. They have no special privileges or powers and, besides the text, are in no way different from many posters you might meet on these forums. MVPs are recognized by Blizzard for providing consistently accurate information and helping to maintain a positive atmosphere on the forums. This, of course, does not preclude some of them from being a little snarky and sarcastic at times! You will also notice posters that represent themselves with blue font. These are official representatives that work for Blizzard. They do have the ability to answer many questions and offer some bans when the situation warrants it. More information about these two can be found in the first sticky on the General Forums, as well as links to the forum Guidelines and Code of Conduct: https://us.battle.net/forums/en/wow/topic/20749397405 Moving on! While Warcraft can be a very exciting experience, there are likely many questions you will ask along the way and a few problems you might run into. Fear not, for all the people who post in these forums (whether they'd like to admit it or not!) were in the same boat at one point or another. In fact, you might even see some of them come in here and ask questions of their own! Take this as a sign that not everyone knows everything about the game! For your reading ease, the most asked questions will be highlighted in this thread. Refer to the Categories and list below to easily navigate your way through the posts (you can also do a ctrl+f search for any important terms). As always, have fun while playing Warcraft and happy hunting! Categories: Rules of the Game a. Buying Characters b. Buying Gold c. Private Servers d. Reporting Others/Being Reported The Game a. Order/Content of Expansions b. Server Transfers (What are they, where can I transfer to?) Character Information a. How to repair b. Level requirements for Helms/Shoulders c. Armor/Weapons for Classes d. Professions: What level, How to Unlearn e. Talent Points: What are they, How to Change f. Glyphs: General Information g. Mounts: Level/Training/Cost h. Spells: Where are they, how to change action bar Zones. etc. a. Levels of Zones b. Levels of Dungeons c. Levels of Raids d. Levels of Battlegrounds e. Scenarios Auction House a. How to Place Items b. How to Buy Items/Bid on Items c. How to Cancel Auctions d. Black Market Auction House User Interface a. Coordinates b. Chat Channels c. Add Ons Basic Mechanics a. How to Swim b. How to Unstack Items c. Other Keyboard commands d. Mouse (basic) Common Problems a. Destroyed Hearthstone b. Cannot return to corpse after death c. Failing Quests d. GM Tickets Useful Links a. General Information b. RAF FAQ c. Guild Recruitment d. Choosing a Server (How to)Frejya262	Aug 26

Aug 26 Welcome to Warcraft - Frequent Questions Hello all, and welcome to World of Warcraft! This can be a very rewarding game and offers a variety of cool experiences with the chance to meet some interesting folks. We'd all like to extend a hearty welcome to the newest members of our ever-growing community and wish you the best of luck in your gaming experience. Before we get started, one of the first questions you might be asking is why the text of certain posters is in green or blue. Green is because those posters are forum MVPs. They have no special privileges or powers and, besides the text, are in no way different from many posters you might meet on these forums. MVPs are recognized by Blizzard for providing consistently accurate information and helping to maintain a positive atmosphere on the forums. This, of course, does not preclude some of them from being a little snarky and sarcastic at times! You will also notice posters that represent themselves with blue font. These are official representatives that work for Blizzard. They do have the ability to answer many questions and offer some bans when the situation warrants it. More information about these two can be found in the first sticky on the General Forums, as well as links to the forum Guidelines and Code of Conduct: https://us.battle.net/forums/en/wow/topic/20749397405 Moving on! While Warcraft can be a very exciting experience, there are likely many questions you will ask along the way and a few problems you might run into. Fear not, for all the people who post in these forums (whether they'd like to admit it or not!) were in the same boat at one point or another. In fact, you might even see some of them come in here and ask questions of their own! Take this as a sign that not everyone knows everything about the game! For your reading ease, the most asked questions will be highlighted in this thread. Refer to the Categories and list below to easily navigate your way through the posts (you can also do a ctrl+f search for any important terms). As always, have fun while playing Warcraft and happy hunting! Categories: Rules of the Game a. Buying Characters b. Buying Gold c. Private Servers d. Reporting Others/Being Reported The Game a. Order/Content of Expansions b. Server Transfers (What are they, where can I transfer to?) Character Information a. How to repair b. Level requirements for Helms/Shoulders c. Armor/Weapons for Classes d. Professions: What level, How to Unlearn e. Talent Points: What are they, How to Change f. Glyphs: General Information g. Mounts: Level/Training/Cost h. Spells: Where are they, how to change action bar Zones. etc. a. Levels of Zones b. Levels of Dungeons c. Levels of Raids d. Levels of Battlegrounds e. Scenarios Auction House a. How to Place Items b. How to Buy Items/Bid on Items c. How to Cancel Auctions d. Black Market Auction House User Interface a. Coordinates b. Chat Channels c. Add Ons Basic Mechanics a. How to Swim b. How to Unstack Items c. Other Keyboard commands d. Mouse (basic) Common Problems a. Destroyed Hearthstone b. Cannot return to corpse after death c. Failing Quests d. GM Tickets Useful Links a. General Information b. RAF FAQ c. Guild Recruitment d. Choosing a Server (How to)Frejya262 Aug 26
Thanks for bringing this question to our attention. Addons and their availability are a large part of what makes WoW great. Any addon that enhances your User Interface [UI] is totally okay, however, anything that automates your character's play [you can walk away from your computer and your character is still leveling, in combat, etc] is decidedly not okay and falls under exploitation and botting. If you are concerned at all or think the particular addon/guide may fall under that second category, for your safety, I recommend you just stay away from that one as violations of the Botting/Exploitation aspect of the Terms of Use is a bannable offense. If you have any questions about what might be considered automated play, I recommend you refer to the Terms of Use and follow them to the letter. You may find those Terms here: http://us.blizzard.com/en-us/company/legal/wow_tou.html.
Well, I think, a “wall of of text” is not defined by the amount of characters. To create a wall of text you need two things: lots of characters, and lots of missing line breaks / paragraphs. I’m completely aware of that, and I’m always trying to section and format my texts in a manner that makes it usable for readers ;) I think the limit of 990 chars is not contributing to avoid walls of text. (It’s easy to build a a wall of text with only 500 chars, but I think you got what I mean…)
I'd say level this toon a bit more, maybe up to 30 or so, and see how you like the experience. If you find questing just a means to an end, maybe the guide would be a good buy. Me, I generally like questing and go to an area I'm interested in, even if it's not the most level-appropriate for me or the best way to maximize my time, so those guides aren't of much interest to me for now.
The vanilla WoW Horde leveling guide you see on this site was originally made back in 2006 by Joana (AKA Mancow, or FuriousPaul).  The guides have been tweaked many times over the years to make things "faster".  The leveling guides were made because of all the messages I got from people asking me how I was able to level up so quickly on new realms.  I was first to level 60 on 7 different realms (3 with Mancow and 4 with Joana), even winning Blizzard's "First to Level 50" contest they held back in 2006.
If you bought Legion and have no desire to go through old content, good news! The new expansion comes with a free boost to level 100 for one character. You can buy these boosts from the in-game store whenever you want, but they normally cost $60, so savor this free one. Use it for a class that you are confident you will enjoy. As a fresh level 100 character, you will be able to immediately begin the quest that takes you the Broken Isles, the new region where Legion takes place.
The expansion brings a major change to the PvP ruleset on each realm. Every realm by default only allows players to attack NPCs in the open world; players who wish to engage in world PvP now have a setting called "War Mode" that can only be toggled on or off in their faction's capital city (i.e. Stormwind for the Alliance and Orgrimmar for the Horde). While in War Mode, players have access to new talents and abilities, as well as a slightly accelerated rate of XP gain.[11] Characters with War Mode activated are only able to see other players with War Mode, unless in their own capital cities.
Although you usually don't want to buy items to sell from vendor, some items can be sold for much more than you pay for them from the vendor. There are a few reasons people will buy a vendor item for a higher cost at the AH. They vendor may be hard to get to, the recipe only sells in limited stock, or the buyer simply may not know where the item is from.

There's a good chance you can buy the raw materials for 25% - 75% of the going rate of the finished item, or mine them for free. The fee for an 8 hour auction is only 1 silver, so you can afford to re-auction rods that don't sell the first time. Be careful of making too many rods or other parts of a kind at once, though, as you may get stuck with them for a long time when others produce the same item and set a cheaper price to it.


Excess Potion of Accelerated Learning: Acquired in your Garrison (part of the Warlords of Draenor expansion), this gives you a 20-percent bonus to experience from killing monsters and finishing quests. It lasts one hour, but you can buy it multiple times and use it back-to-back. Alliance players buy it from Sergeant Crowler, horde players buy it from Sergeant Grimjaw. Does not work above level 99.
Trying to level my nb rogue in stonetalon/desolace... it's bad. Really bad. Curious to see your comparisons, but yeah the quests are super spread out and send you back and forth repeatedly, and without guaranteed drops on the drop quests. Desolace seems worse than stonetalon, but I think I ran out of quests and had to move on or maybe got bored in stonetalon.

Addons Advanced Gold Making AH Auctionator Auction House Beginners Blog News Darkmoon Faire Dear Gold Queen economy Enchanting ethics Expertise Farming featured Fishing flipping Free Warcraft Gold Guides Fun Herbalism Inscription Jewelcrafting Leatherworking Legion mistakes Opportunity Cost Ore Other Blogs Pandaria Patch 4.3 Patches Pets Practical Guide Premium gold guides Professions Quick Screenshots series Snatch Lists Strategies Tailoring Tips Trade Skill Master Transmogrification Ultimate Warcraft Secrets
Level 120 comes and goes. Island Expeditions have unlocked, but it turns out they’re not much fun, and the most rewarding versions are only accessible to premade groups. You turn to Warfronts only to realize they’re not available this week. Fine. You can always grind out better gear. Except as you do, you notice your new gear has higher Azerite requirements than your old gear, which means your shiny new items have fewer unlocked traits than what they replaced. Discouraged, you decide to roll as one of the cool new Allied Races. Except you can’t because they’re all locked behind reputation grinds.
ifgte(ItemQuality, 1, minprice * ifgt(minprice, 250000g, 80, ifgt(minprice, 100000g, (minprice - 100000g) * (80 - 70) / (250000g - 100000g) + 70, ifgt(minprice, 50000g, (minprice - 50000g) * (70 - 60) / (100000g - 50000g) + 60, ifgt(minprice, 10000g, (minprice - 10000g) * (60 - 50) / (50000g - 10000g) + 50, ifgt(minprice, 5000g, (minprice - 5000g) * (50 - 30) / (10000g - 5000g) + 30, ifgt(minprice, 1000g, (minprice - 1000g) * (30 - 10) / (5000g - 1000g) + 10, 0)))))) / 100)
One of my favorite features is the Smart Injection System, which automatically determines the optimal place for your character to get started with the guides, based on your level and quest history. In other words, it doesn’t matter what level you are currently, you can jump right in and continue seamlessly with the guides. It also means that you don’t have to be a slave to the guides, they work perfectly even if you’re also leveling in instances, battlegrounds, using heirlooms or rested EXP. If your level ever gets ahead of the guide, just use the built-in feature to skip to the right place again. Very cool.
After identifying items that people want you need to figure out how to obtain them at a lower price than the current auction house price, as this will ensure a profit. In general there are three ways you can obtain items in the game: buying them off the auction house, looting them (from mobs, nodes or similar) or crafting them. These methods help you obtain the items that you want to sell. This leads into the three main gold-making methods in WoW. Crafting, Farming and Flipping. So let’s dig into them.
This was a farming spot that I made vastly popular on YouTube sometime last year.  It is my FAVORITE farming spot of that era, simply becuase it was an old world farming spot that allowed you to hit almost 3 different markets.  With this spot you can get cloths:  Felcloth, runecloth, and mageweave. Herbs:  Goldthorn, ghost mushroom, goldclover, and fadeleaf.  World drops: rich purple shirt.  AND a plethora of transmog from a single run.  I literally had some pulls where I came out with 17,000g in item value for 10 minutes of farming.  It was insane – actually it still is.  Anyway If you have a druid or monk, then this is an awesome farm to hit ESPECIALLY if you are on a high populated server.  Generally just pull the entire instance, and circle it back around the front.  Mega gold to be made here.
Encrypted Patch 8.2 Build 29970 Arrives to WoW Vendor As Ion mentioned in his latest PC Gamer interview, the initial Patch 8.2 Build will be pushed to test servers really soon. WoW Vendor has been updated with a new encrypted Build 29970, so the big info dump and Rise of Azshara on Public Test Realms are imminent. World of Warcraft WoW Today at 08:17 by Stan 3 comments
Azeroth paid a terrible price to end the apocalyptic march of the Legion’s crusade—but even as the world’s wounds are tended, it is the shattered trust between the Alliance and Horde that may prove hardest to mend. As the fires of war continue to roar, take the battle to both new and familiar lands with the Tides of Vengeance update, and join your allies to champion your faction’s cause.
Much like an encounter with a wild pet team, PVP Pet Battles are turn-based. However, unlike the PVE version, the PVP combat system is timed and any ability for each round must be chosen within that time limit otherwise it will assume you have passed a turn. A time penalty is applied if you take more than 15 seconds to choose an action, resulting in progressively shorter round timers for you.
Once your auctioning operation reaches a certain size a second account becomes an invaluable tool. It will allow you to run auctioning scans, shopping scans and collect mailboxes while playing your main. I strongly suggest buying a second monitor as well. This will help you really unlock the benefit of a second account. For a detailed guide on why and how to set it up check out my post on the subject.
Nov 11 New players welcome discord all new players and old players are welcome to join my server, we have been playing for awhile we can assist you with ur questions! 6300 30 posts 1 sec ago https://discord.gg/CNU53ju basicly made it so people can talk/make friends while playing any game, has 50+ people in the server, most people are on moonguard playing wow. this is a friendly server, we dont allow bullying! We prefer everyone to put eachother up instead of down. We have a suggestion box! and a music bot :) i am trying to get more people into the server so we can have events like stand up comedy. custom emojis available you just gotta send them to admin (Me) also looking for server mods to manage the server/improve it when im not around.Tenzo0 Nov 11
Encrypted Patch 8.2 Build 29970 Arrives to WoW Vendor As Ion mentioned in his latest PC Gamer interview, the initial Patch 8.2 Build will be pushed to test servers really soon. WoW Vendor has been updated with a new encrypted Build 29970, so the big info dump and Rise of Azshara on Public Test Realms are imminent. World of Warcraft WoW Today at 08:17 by Stan 3 comments
jame, addon version or your guide is F$%&ING AWESOME, THANK YOU. there is a part in the first section of the guide where im instructed to take shindrell's not to kayneth stillwind, but there is no instruction to pick up that quest on the way through astranaar, if i find anything else like this ill let you know, love your guide, thanks for taking the time to put it together!!
-Island Expeditions- Island expeditions was one of the new features I was looking forward to but Blizzard no longer makes games that are ready when they are ready but rather makes games ready when the deadline comes. Thus, many of the new features are completely stripped down from what was expected and it's literally just a small scenario you enter with two other players to continue to grind out your Azerite neck piece.

Step-by-step class guides are on the way!  The 1-12 Mulgore Guide is the first guide to get all the individual class steps.  At the top of the guide, simply select which class you are playing and the page will dynamically update all the steps in the guide for that class (both text and images).  The rest of the guides will be slowly updated overtime to include all the class steps, but you can see how it's going to work with the 1-12 Mulgore.  I want to thank crazyK and his Placeholderguild for helping me out with the individual class content.  They are allowing me to get the 1-60 Alliance guide done while also getting all the class steps done at the same time, so everything can be ready for Classic launch (hopefully).
Time Trials for MDI take place during a 72-hour window on the Tournament Realm. The first Time Trial window begins Saturday, March 23 at 7 a.m. PDT for MDI West (North America, Latin America, and Europe), and Saturday, March 30 at 7 a.m. CST for MDI East (China, South Korea, Southeast Asia, Taiwan and Australia/New Zealand). When this time window begins, players on the tournament realm will receive a quest with three Blizzard account-bound keystones from this Turnip, found in Hook Point (Alliance) or Mugambala (Horde).
Another terrible one. I'd have initially thought the bloodlust was kinda useful since you won't have to waste money/effort on drums, it can't actually be used in instances so woo, a free BL in the open world that doesn't even buff your party members... and when both mail classes already have a BL, I mean, really, what's the point? The mount from the initial design could have at least been unique and possibly had a use, but this is very disappointing. The passive buffs outside don't appear to be anything spectacular or interesting either, though I suppose might be useful if you stumble upon them while doing world quests or whatever. I would recommend not crafting this one.
After the reload, you can set up the actual sniper operation. Under TSM -> Operations -> Sniper, create a new sniper operation. You can name it what ever you want. In the options for this operation, you can change the Maximum Auction Price setting to one of these two strings (I will explain the differences between the two strins in the following section). Make sure to hit enter to save your changes.
-Island Expeditions- Island expeditions was one of the new features I was looking forward to but Blizzard no longer makes games that are ready when they are ready but rather makes games ready when the deadline comes. Thus, many of the new features are completely stripped down from what was expected and it's literally just a small scenario you enter with two other players to continue to grind out your Azerite neck piece.
Most of the players make the mistake of only listing 30-50 transmog items on the auction house and then hoping to get half of them sold until the next day. Me and a lot of other gold farmers and transmog sellers do have 3.000-10.000 items on the auction house across various realms. It does not mean you have to do it that way – but if you have 1000 items listed, chances are higher you can sell up to 10 per day. With only 100 items listed, you have to be lucky to sell one. Of course, the sells are not guaranteed if you post more items. But i’m sure you have a lot more fun if you open your mailbox and 10-20 items are sold
Even though the guide was developed with a hunter, the guide can be followed by any class.  Except you have to do your class's quests which aren't a whole lot.  I do have full intention to make my guide friendly with all classes in the future by listing all of their steps as well.  There will be a toggle that allows you to show which class's steps you want to see in the guide.  But this is coming later.
Once you have your finished product and have a price for it, keep in mind that using either your faction AH or the neutral AH also costs money: if the item does not sell, its deposit is taken by the AH; if it does sell, the deposit is returned, but a cut from the payment it taken by the AH as a commission. You must factor this into your selling price: your faction's AH will take 5% from your sale, while the neutral ones will take 15%. You can factor this into your cost to determine the minimum price at which you need to sell to at least break even:
They seem to have expected some things, though, see adding pets with aquatic damage (gun and ooze) aswell as a resistant cockroach to stop us from cheesing everything with elementals. Yet, a fact their damage output is low combined with shields not checking for racial damage means this mechanic prevents a lot as you mentioned. The last boss has got an ability to remove basic shields so perhaps that was not in oblivion either… unlike the reactive damage. Also, an ability that forces swap altogether with an ability which prevents from being swapped, including critters? I can't say I like it.
Mists of Pandaria has a few rare mobs that drop epic BoE’s. Most are in Krasarang Wilds and most drop leg slot gear. Scritch is also very good as you can get the Hozen Peace Pipe from him. The best way to farm them is to occasionally check if they’re up and kill them all in the order listed below. That way you basically just fly through Krasarang Wilds with a short visit to Townlong Steppes, The Jade Forest and Kun-Lai Summit
Wow, an absolutely fantastic, if not monstrously OP one that I'm sure will be nerfed soon. The on-use effect is definitely very alchemist-y and a lot of effort went into the extra cosmetic (Cthulhu fhtagn!), useful and profitable effects of it. The bonus procs on a limited timeframe, I think are a fantastic addition, especially for profitibility, save em all then go nuts! I do wish it was for the full hour rather than 2x 10 mins but ah well. The cauldrons are OP as hell though, with very short (~5 mins) respawns at multiple fixed locations throughout Zandalar/Kul Tiras, and with each one giving a random potion, flask or even Cauldron(!) each, that's huge profitability. And with how essential flasks and potions are during raiding, these bonus ones as you are questing are incredibly useful! I would strongly recommend making this asap and farming cauldrons while you can, as I strongly suspect these will be put on a longer cooldown with how much they are giving right now.
Materials ('mats') - items that get used in professions. This is driven more by use than by source; for example, copper is very easy to mine, but it is widely in demand, and you can often find bargains in copper, bargains you can profit from. Contrarily, some very scarce mats may have low demand, may only be used in one mediocre recipe, and may not sell.

Despite all of these problems and this laundry list of glaring systematic issues, the crowning achievement of Battle for Azeroth’s endgame is that it still remains enjoyable all due to those two pillars of raiding and dungeons. That won’t last forever. As the expansion goes on, and the grind necessary to progress becomes even more demanding and the time spent in content that simply isn’t fun increases, it will be harder and harder for raiding and Mythic+ to carry the expansion along.
This farm very much resembles the Dire Maul farm in that it allows you to hit multiple markets without having to do too much.  You can mageweave, runecloth, greens, world drops, and herbs all from this one single spot with the addition of countless transmog items.  I personally love this spot – however I feel I stumbled upon it a little to late.  The benefits is that this is the LARGEST instance in the entire game – literally.  You can spend up to 15 minutes pulling the entire instance.  You are rewarded however with an abundance of drops of all kinds. You can quickly fill up your inventory here.  If you need greens form the 47-51 area, this is your spot.  As mentioned, you will also get soo many trade goods that it's hard not to fill even the biggest of bags.
Warfronts are larger, 20-man challenges that take inspiration from the Warcraft strategy games. Players are deployed on the Warfront to collect resources, destroy enemy troops, construct buildings, and eventually launch an assault to take over the enemy base. These battles take 20 to 40 minutes to complete and, unlike Island Expeditions, don’t offer a PvP mode.

You’ll get a small window inside the game with instructions for what you need to do next, every step of the way to 120. You’ll also get a waypoint arrow that points you in the right direction to go at all times. If this sounds extremely convenient, you’re right! Zygor’s leveling guide/addon has completely taken the frustration out of leveling for me, personally. No more reading comments on WoWHead about how to complete quests. No more getting stuck, frustrated and bored with leveling. And no more feeling like WoW takes too much effort.
Professions in Battle for Azeroth Professions in Battle for Azeroth, the next WoW expansion after Legion, have received a significant update, with many new recipes as well as a significant skill squish. In this overview, we'll highlight the major recipes, reagents, and useful items each profession offers. Battle for Azeroth Alchemy Guide Everything about Battle for Azeroth Alchemy including trainer locations, potions, flasks, reagents, transmutation, and special Alchemy-only perks. How the Scrapper in Battle for Azeroth Works Full explanation of how the Scrapper works in Battle for Azeroth and how to properly use it to get the crafting materials you need from unwanted gear.
Addons Advanced Gold Making AH Auctionator Auction House Beginners Blog News Darkmoon Faire Dear Gold Queen economy Enchanting ethics Expertise Farming featured Fishing flipping Free Warcraft Gold Guides Fun Herbalism Inscription Jewelcrafting Leatherworking Legion mistakes Opportunity Cost Ore Other Blogs Pandaria Patch 4.3 Patches Pets Practical Guide Premium gold guides Professions Quick Screenshots series Snatch Lists Strategies Tailoring Tips Trade Skill Master Transmogrification Ultimate Warcraft Secrets

Meanwhile, Tyrande Whisperwind and Malfurion Stormrage grow impatient regarding liberating Darkshore from the Horde's control, ultimately choosing to begin the offensive on their own, against Anduin's advice. In order to maximize their chances, Tyrande undergoes a ritual to turn herself into the Night Warrior, the avatar of Elune's most wrathful and warlike aspects. To counter this, Sylvanas orders several Night Elven heroes who fell in the Burning of Teldrassil to be raised as Dark Rangers to bolster her forces.
Similar items to peacebloom that are profitable on most servers for people getting started include: Hypnotic dust, Celestial Essences, Relics of Ulduar (and other rep items), and heavenly shards. The same can be said with the earlier wrath enchanting mats, they are still valuable for casual players or those without a lot of disposable income! This list is not the end all be all of making quick money! Check your scan results daily and add to this list and you will be on your way to hitting the gold cap much faster than those who quest or farm!
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