If you are just coming out of Level 110, you will probably have a number of different Legendary items to choose from. Your Legendaries' special effects will stop working at Level 116, but until then they can be a very powerful addition to help you level up quickly. These are our Legendary recommendations for leveling as a Arcane Mage in Battle for Azeroth:

Always post a buyout price on your auctions. Don't think that "They'll just bid it up anyway." Many players will not bid on an auction with no buyout price unless the item's bid price is heavily discounted to begin with. This can lead to bidding wars, but in many cases the item will sell for a fraction of what you could have gotten if you had posted a buyout price in the first place. You will have more sales at a higher price and get your money more quickly if you post a proper buyout price.
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This leaves players chasing an endless loop of trying to get higher level Azerite gear — which can only reliably be gained through raids and isn’t available in Mythic+ — but only the pieces with exactly the right traits will actually be an upgrade. It’s even possible that some items that should be huge upgrades are nullified by the loss of a specific trait that makes one ability do more damage than the others.
Nightborne Elves: Nightborne Elves are highly magical creatures you meet initially in the Legion expansion. The Nightborne were enslaved by The Burning Legion, but players band together to free them. The Nightborne ultimately decide to join the Horde, feeling closer alignment with the Horde's magical Blood Elves, rather than the Alliance's nature-loving Night Elves.
This Week in WoW: April 2nd A new week has started in WoW, meaning we're just a week away from the Crucible of Storms raid intro questline and Azerite Knowledge has been reactivated. Darkmoon Faire will be up for the first time in Patch 8.1.5 and you can level up your battle pets faster during the weekly bonus event. World of Warcraft WoW Apr 03, 2019 at 09:31 by Stan
Each of those modes existed long before this latest expansion; raiding is a basic concept in MMOs, and Mythic+ was added in World of Warcraft’s last expansion. The problems with Battle for Azeroth’s endgame come from the systems it adds, which most often artificially gate progress where most of the fun can be found. If raids and Mythic+ are the carrot, we’re about to talk about the stick.

1. Begin by providing a sell message that is clear and concise. This includes the grammar and punctuation just as much as it does the word choice. Try changing that "Some noob buy my sh!t" into "Looking to sell a ____. Please message me if interested. Thanks!". People would rather see a message that is obviously not from a foreign gold farmer or a younger kid. These sellers are hard to deal with and have the stereotype of scamming the honest player.

Items you buy from vendors can be resold on the auction house for a profit. The most common way of making gold this way is finding either vendors with limited supply items that you can only buy a set amount of a particular item from and then you have to wait a while before someone can buy more, or buy items from vendors located in locations that are far off. There are also vendors that will sell items for other currencies than gold. One more important thing to note is that you can sell very common easily available items on the AH as well. Like crafting materials from profession supply vendors that only cost a few copper or silver that can be resold on the AH for gold, and they actually have a decent sale rate.
1 of my 3 polymorph tome spots.  This spot requires a high level mage character (the tome will only drop for mages), and can also be done with the potion of luck for a quick boost to profits.  Generally the kurzen monkeys in this spot have the highest chance to drop the Tome of Polymorh: Monkey – and the best part is they drop it often.  Always check your AH before deciding to farm this spot.  If theres not to many, then give it a try.  In the video I actually got more than one to drop.  It's the cheapest of the tomes, and consequentially the easiest to farm.  Again, you MUST be a mage.
World of Warcraft’s newest expansion, Battle for Azeroth, is all about returning to the roots of Horde against Alliance. In order to get there, the team needed to make some bold choices, including burning down Darnassus, the home of the night elves. Add in the new Allied Race system, which forces factions of old allies like Legion’s Nightborne and Highmountain Tauren to pick sides, and a massive story-based campaign through both Kul Tiras and Zandalar, and there’s a lot of kindling there for players to get mad about online.

This will essentially compare DBHistorical, DBRegionMarketAvg and DBRegionHistorical and then use which ever of these price sources valued the item the lowest to assess the value of an item. This way TSM will hopefully not overvalue items. You could even go a step further and add DBMarket and/or even DBMinBuyout to the string. Then TSM will be even more pessimistic when valuing items.
Survival Hunters are incredibly different than the other specs in that it is a primarily melee based DPS build. While ranged attack are featured, they are in no way competitive with the damage output that you will see from melee. Survival Hunter pets provide a tonne of utility effects in this spec. Though not as mobile as Beast Mastery Hunters, they are far more mobile than many other melee classes.

Heirlooms: Heirlooms are the best source of bonus XP for leveling. All slots can be gotten pretty easily now, except the rings. The time you need to spend to get the rings if you haven’t gotten a level 3 shipyard in WoW is way too long, so getting the rings is generally not worth it. Having all your heirloom gear will boost XP by 55%. Generally, you want heirloom gear with crit on for leveling as you want to kill mobs in a few hits as possible


Changes were also made to levelling in earlier content with Legion's 7.3.5 patch. The level-scaling tech introduced in Legion not only be continued in the new continents of Kul Tiras and Zandalar, but was also be applied to content from prior expansions, allowing larger level brackets for lower level zones. Further, as previous expansions are now included in the base game, the level ranges for those expansions are now broadened, allowing players to spend more time leveling in preferred expansions and avoid others entirely. Some examples include a zone like Westfall having its level bracket (at 10–15 as of Legion) increased to 10–60, whilst continents such as Outland and Northrend sharing a 60–80 level bracket. The aim of this change is to encourage more player choice whilst levelling and to allow players to experience the full story of a particular zone without overlevelling the relevant quests.
I like his recommendations 2 level 1-20 zones to get to 20, then do all the 2nd zones since they are designed for walking (Horde: Northern Barrens, Silverpine Forest, Ghostlands, Azshara, & Hillsbrad Foothills if you need a little more. Alliance: Westfall, Loch Modan, Darkshore, Bloodmyst Isle, and if you need a little more Redridge Mtns, or Duskwood). Don't even bother with the higher level areas, too spread out. Finishing up a Monk now and I had done all these zones before the update, the running between quest and the 50% experience cap is driving me crazy.
Draught of Ten Lands Exploit Ban Wave: March 22nd Players recently abused a bug related to the Draught of Ten Lands potion. Separating the potion into multiple stacks resulted in more Draught of Ten Lands applications than intended. Everyone who exploited the bug have had their account suspended. World of Warcraft WoW Mar 22, 2019 at 11:47 by Stan 19 comments
If you are just coming out of Level 110, you will probably have a number of different Legendary items to choose from. Your Legendaries' special effects will stop working at Level 116, but until then they can be a very powerful addition to help you level up quickly. These are our Legendary recommendations for leveling as a Frost Mage in Battle for Azeroth:
 Void elf (7.3.5) - "Many have sought to harness the corruptive magic of the Void. Most who tried have fallen into madness. Determined to use this power for the good of Azeroth, Alleria Windrunner is the first mortal to succeed at defying the shadow's whispers. Coming to the aid of a group of her kin who nearly gave in to the darkness, Alleria has vowed to train these Void Elves to control the shadows within them and pledge their newfound powers to the Alliance."
This will essentially compare DBHistorical, DBRegionMarketAvg and DBRegionHistorical and then use which ever of these price sources valued the item the lowest to assess the value of an item. This way TSM will hopefully not overvalue items. You could even go a step further and add DBMarket and/or even DBMinBuyout to the string. Then TSM will be even more pessimistic when valuing items.

Don't put all your eggs in one basket. It's a lot better to spend your working capital on buying forty items for auction, each with the potential for profit, than to take all your working capital and invest it in that one purple leatherworking recipe that you hope will make you several hundred gold. If that puppy doesn't sell, or doesn't sell for what you want, you've just wasted all your working money, and deprived yourself of a lot of flexibility. Leave speculating on purple items until you have a few thousand gold squirreled away.
Nov 5 Demon Hunter Low Dps So i finished the starting zone for demon hunter and i found out im not doing any dps what so ever. Everyone tells me that thier doing something towards 14k after leaving the starting zone. But the max im ever gotten with any move is 300. Im level 100 with the gear what im supposed to leave with and for some reason im doing significantly lower dps than the usual player. Any help?Zexguru3 Nov 5
I'd say level this toon a bit more, maybe up to 30 or so, and see how you like the experience. If you find questing just a means to an end, maybe the guide would be a good buy. Me, I generally like questing and go to an area I'm interested in, even if it's not the most level-appropriate for me or the best way to maximize my time, so those guides aren't of much interest to me for now.
Similarly, when earning by volume, do not overload the AH with your items. Basic supply and demand: too much supply will make your wares too common and unwanted. Furthermore, with great demand and a cheaper price, you may end up starting a price war with your competitors, with them actively trying to undercut and outdo you. Moderate the amount of items you're selling on the AH to small batches, refilling them only when sold out.

Set sail for the previously unmapped isles of Azeroth. Battle in groups of three as you race against cunning rival intruders—or enemy players—to collect the island’s resources. Constantly evolving challenges await as you traverse frozen landscapes near Northrend, open the gates of an abandoned Gilnean castle, navigate a war between elementals and more. Tides of Vengeance adds two new Island Expeditions to the mix and two new random events, as well as updated rewards.

The Hearthstone has a cooldown of 30 minutes, but there’s a guild perk called Hasty Hearth that shaves the time by half, giving you a strong incentive to join a guild. Yes, even if it’s some random guild that invites you without warning. It may feel odd to join people you don’t know, but if they have Hasty Hearth (and most guilds do), joining can save you a lot of legwork.
Freedownloadstation is proud to present to you one of the top most trending games of 2018 “World of Warcraft: Battle for Azeroth” which is the upcoming seventh expansion set in the massively multiplayer online role-playing game (MMORPG) World of Warcraft, following Legion. It became available for preorder on January 30, 2018, and it will be released on August 14, 2018 but it will be a beta testing phase. Freedownloadstation has pre-released World of Warcraft: Battle for Azeroth for free just for you World of Warcraft lovers out there. The Alliance, led by King Anduin and Genn Greymane, attacked Lordaeron, Warchief Sylvanas’ base at Undercity, in response to the Horde burning down Teldrassil. The factions are at war. Between the Alliance-controlled Eastern Kingdoms and the Horde-controlled Kalimdor is the Great Sea. It is in this Sea that a majority of the expansion will take place. The expansion will raise the level cap from 110 to 120, introduce the Kul Tiras and Zandalar continents, add dungeons and raids, add warfronts (20-player PvE mode against opposite faction NPCs), add uncharted islands, and introduce three allied races for each the Alliance and the Horde. World of Warcraft: Battle for Azeroth is available on Microsoft Windows and macOS. The best part is it’s completely for free on our website.
Battle for Azeroth adds two continental landmasses each comprised of three large areas. For the first time in WoW history, Alliance and Horde players will level to cap separately, with Horde players starting on Zandalar, and Alliance players starting on Kul Tiras. At max level, Horde and Alliance players will invade each opposing isle to continue the story.
As part of Battle for Azeroth, players will be able to unlock new "Allied Races" to join the Horde and the Alliance, becoming playable after meeting certain conditions. Some of the new races are already available in the game for pre-purchases, while others will become unlocked while playing through the new content. Blizzard has also confirmed that beyond the ones we know so far, further races are planned to join the Horde and Alliance in future patches for free. The new races we know about so far are as follows.

You can destroy your competitors so thoroughly, and own a server so totally, that other players could stop playing the game.  I show you how these competitors can also be your buyers, your supporters, your peons or employees and everyone on your whole server can profit and grow in riches together.  Do not buy this guide if you want to cause distress to other players.
Allied races: Our new allies will join the factions and players will be able to unlock the ability to play their race. There are 6 planned for launch. Horde: Nightborne, Highmountain tauren, Zandalari troll. Alliance: Void elf, Lightforged draenei, Dark Iron dwarf. Additional races are planned for the future. Receive a Heritage Armor set, if you level an allied race character to level 110.[5][6]
The Heart of Azeroth is an artifact given to the player character from the world soul via Magni Bronzebeard. It is a necklace that can use the power of Azerite, the lifeblood of the embryonic titan Azeroth (See Plot, below). Azerite is similar in function to Legion's artifact power, in that it is gathered normally from playing the game and is used to upgrade an artifact; likewise, the Heart is similar in function to Legion's artifact weapons by having the capacity to be constantly upgraded. Unlike artifact weapons, however, the Heart is shared with all of the player's specializations and can empower all eligible pieces worn simultaneously.

Another terrible one. I'd have initially thought the bloodlust was kinda useful since you won't have to waste money/effort on drums, it can't actually be used in instances so woo, a free BL in the open world that doesn't even buff your party members... and when both mail classes already have a BL, I mean, really, what's the point? The mount from the initial design could have at least been unique and possibly had a use, but this is very disappointing. The passive buffs outside don't appear to be anything spectacular or interesting either, though I suppose might be useful if you stumble upon them while doing world quests or whatever. I would recommend not crafting this one.


 Dark Iron dwarf - "Known for their fiery tempers and fierce determination, Dark Iron dwarves have a turbulent history with the other clans. A failed coup in Ironforge ignited the War of the Three Hammers, and many of the Dark Iron once fought in the service of Ragnaros the Firelord. Though one faction is pledged to Queen-Regent Moira Thaurissan, others refuse to stand alongside their kin. The Alliance seeks a united Dark Iron clan to harness the power of Azerite and aid their struggle against the Horde."
Elemental items (Primals, Eternals, etc.) can be a good source of money, because they are always in demand on the AH. See which mobs you will most benefit from farming, then set out for a few hours. In the process you will also most likely collect significant vendor trash, and may get other profitable item drops as well. Note, however, that older elemental drops usually lose profitability compared to newer ones, i.e. Primal Water sold well to level 70 players in BC, but sells far less well to level 80 players in WotLK, because level 80 gear requires Eternal this'n'that.
Congratulations on reaching Level 120! There are a myriad of new things to do. The first thing you should do is head to your faction hub ship where you have been doing your mission table quests and footholds to pick up and complete the quests necessary to unlock World Quests. World Quests will provide you an opportunity to grind reputation levels, acquire gear, and gather Azerite. There are tons of new things to do that we will cover in our Level 120 Battle Guide found here: Level 120 Battle Guide.
Last week I started a my quest to do 100 dungeon runs of all classic dungeon content(and possibly beyond) every Monday i'll be Posting my results here as well as a video on my youtube channel if you are just wanting something to liste to while farming ;). For the last week I found my self in deadmines and it was awful (100 runs of ragefire was enjoyable compared to this)
Soloing an instance can be all the more profitable if your character is an enchanter. During any solo instance run, you'll end up with some items which can be sold or traded, and some that are bind-on-pickup. Non-enchanters can only sell these soulbound items to a vendor, but an enchanter can disenchant the bind-on-pickup rare items, and then sell the shard/dust/essence instead of just selling the blue item to a vendor. (A side benefit of selling enchanting materials is that they do not require a deposit to list in the auction house, allowing you to list endlessly until the item sells.)
Cool the whlelping spot that has caused so much controversy int he gold farming community.  I still think spot is mentionable because it's really the only reliable spot to pull out a crimson whelping.  Most of you are probablly thinking this farm is old and beat to death, and you are right.  BUT that does not take away the fact that the whelping does drop highest from this farm.  If you can get it from the slavemasters your looking at anywhere from 25,000g and above.  A cool nifty old spot, that has survived the test of time.
If you are just coming out of Level 110, you will probably have a number of different Legendary items to choose from. Your Legendaries' special effects will stop working at Level 116, but until then they can be a very powerful addition to help you level up quickly. These are our Legendary recommendations for leveling as a Fire Mage in Battle for Azeroth:

Okay, speaking of pet farms this one is a really unique farm.  What we're looking for is the carrier cage : black tabby.  This is a very sought after pet for both horde and alliance – which is why its price competitively at 55,000g.  The farm takes place in Hillsbrad Foothills on a peninsula like piece of land just northwest of the yeti caves.  There will be dozens of stormpike engineers surrounding ballistas that only horde characters can kill.  However, that doesn't mean alliance polayers can't do this farm (im alliance myself).  All you need to do is to create a class trial (monk is the best) and send him over to the grinding spot.  Use the black ox statue to attract the mobs, and easily maul them down group by group.  If luck is on your side, you can make out with an awesome black tabby carrier.


Battle for Azeroth (110-120) Leveling Tips and Consumables How to level from 110 to 120 as quickly as possible in WoW Battle for Azeroth, including recommended zone order, best consumables, general leveling tips, and best addons. Leveling from 1-60: Questing and Dungeons Recommended leveling paths for new players between 1 and 60 in World of Warcraft. Includes tips for questing zones and leveling dungeons. Heirloom Collections Guide A guide to the Heirloom Collections Tab. A complete list of all heirlooms, how much they cost, which vendors sell them, what currency you need, and more!

Some dungeons are also much better than other. Some take a long time to finish and some are quick. Some have few quests and others have many. The ideal dungeons have a lot of quests and are quick to finish. If you are sent to a long dungeon that you have already completed, you can leave but you won’t be able to enter a new dungeon in 30 minutes. Dungeons like the Stockade are super quick, so it will still be good XP if you are sent here more than once.
Azeroth paid a terrible price to end the apocalyptic march of the Legion’s crusade—but even as the world’s wounds are tended, it is the shattered trust between the Alliance and Horde that may prove hardest to mend. As the fires of war continue to roar, take the battle to both new and familiar lands with the Tides of Vengeance update, and join your allies to champion your faction’s cause.
For example, the Azure Whelpling belongs to the Dragonkin family. However, it has Beast, Magic, and Elemental abilities in addition to a Dragonkin attack. Different attacks are strong and weak against different family types. Having a diverse spell selection might increase your chances of being prepared with a strong attack against an opposing team.
A very middle of the pack one, I'd say, if not slightly above average. While the unsocketing power is very minor in both profitability and usefulness, the daily cache of gems is a very nice, pretty low maintenance way of getting a decent surplus of gems each day, very worth adding to any daily rotation. Fantastic for keeping your raiding main's gem slots consistently filled, and yet still having an extra supply to sell. Naturally, however, it's limited per day so you can't really extract a tonne out of it but the flavour of the item really melds with JC well and is something I think should have been part of it for a long time, but still not very exciting nor are gems particularly relevant anymore, sadly, so it loses some points there.

While leveling, try to make use of the new Battle of Azeroth experience gem, Insightful Rubellite, which gives you +5% experience. Equipping one of these requires a socket in your gear, so try to hold on to a piece of Legion gear with a socket or acquire one of the Legion Legendary rings since every class has one. Each of the rings includes a socket. You can acquire one of these rings rather easily by doing World Quests in Legion zones and acquiring 1,000 Wakening Essences that can be used to purchase a legendary ring in the Legion version of Dalaran.
Nov 9 Trial and veteran account restrictions Okay so this is something that Definitely needs to be brought to the attention of the entirety of the player base. The Restrictions for anyone who is on a trial account are as follows. - Characters that are created cannot be leveled beyond 20. (Keep in mind the max level today is 120.) - The maximum amount of gold your characters can carry is 10 gold. - The maximum amount of skill you can obtain in any profession is 100. - The only people who can see you /says and /emotes are any players who are not 10 levels above your own level. (This means the maximum level players can be before the can no longer see your emotes or /says is 31.) - The only players a trial account user can whisper, is anyone who happens to have that specific character on their friends list. - Players of a Trial account are not allowed to make use of Auction houses, Mailboxes, or any form of trading between players. - Trial account players cannot join or create any guilds. - Trial account players are unable to access Trade, Local defense, or General chats in any zone. - Trial account players are unable to invite people into parties. - No pet battling. ... For Veteran Account players, the only difference is that a Veteran account can join a guild that one of their other characters is already in. The reason this is being posted is simple. It has been very rare for me to be able to find anyone who understands the idea of a level 4 not having says or Emote during RP because of them being a Trial or Veteran account. Players who do not understand this, end up getting offended with the Trial or Veteran account owner even though they have no control over these restriction. This needs to stop. It's hard enough already as a player who is using a restricted account without players who are not attempting to understand the situation, getting hostile towards these players and completely ruining the game for our newer and Veteran players. Before a GM tries to shoot this down if they have a reason to... Keep this in mind. It's true that these users who use Trial or Veteran accounts are not paying anything, but they are still players and should be respected just as much as the players who do pay. I'm not saying remove the limitations... make people aware of the restrictions. There are players who don't know about them simply because they never had to put up with it. This makes them ignorant towards those players who do use those trial and veteran accounts and will not think twice about putting them down for something they have no control over. You can tell them to report those player all you like, but at the end of the day..... There are a lot of players who don't know about them. MAKE PEOPLE AWARE OF THE RESTRICTIONS. I'm doing so myself, starting with this thread.Eindrache4	Nov 9

Herbalism is also a good source of money. Herbs are required by alchemists and scribes. Unlike ore which is found only in rocky areas, herbs can be found in many places. Be sure to check on the auction house for what herbs are in demand for a high value; often a lower level one is very valuable, so you can farm an area you already know for quick money.
 Lightforged draenei (7.3.5) - "For untold millennia, the Army of the Light waged war against the Burning Legion throughout the Twisting Nether. The draenei most committed to their long crusade would undergo a ritual to become Lightforged, infusing their bodies with the very essence of the Holy Light. After finally achieving victory on Argus, the Lightforged Draenei have undertaken a new mission: protecting Azeroth from rising threats and helping the Alliance push back against Horde aggression."
The last farm on this list, actually I was surprised this farm eluded me for so long.  Generally speaking gnomergan is a huge confusing instance that takes some getting used to but if your a high value transmog farmer this does not scare you.  You can pull the entire instance and get access to a plethora of high value loot such a recipes, world drops, greens and even engineer supplies.  Overall this farm is shadowed by the Diremaul farm and Zulfarrak farm, but is an equal change of scenery with a wild card if you get the hot shot pilots gloves OR the mechbuilders overalls worth 400,000g and 60,000g respectively.  A pretty cool neat farm that noone really mentioned until now.

It's hard to step out of the shadow of Legion, which was utterly fantastic in almost every way, to enter an expansion where you get one item per boss in the last expansion because the rules have been changed to force more grinding, where you have to grind reputation in the old expansion that you probably skipped because rep grinds suck JUST to unlock allied races (who aren't fully unique races since they recycle old content such as animations), where questing has SOMEHOW become boring again and where your new abilities are given by items you'll swap out every level, meanwhile being only boring passive effects no one cares about.


Skinning is both highly profitable and convenient, in that you will be skinning the monsters that you're already killing as you level. A skinner starts by collecting relatively worthless ruined leather scraps, but soon moves on to light leather, which can be sold for a good profit. An excellent way to farm leather is to skin the kills of other players, especially if you are following along in the wake of a group. However, do wait to start skinning until it's clear that the other player has abandoned the kill. Don't assume that the other player doesn't skin just because they are not a leather-wearer, for example. Note that your chances of getting a better grade of leather increases with your experience; it is possible, though rare, to get light leather from rabbits. Higher grades of leather yield higher profits. A skinner/miner has potent earning power through the auction house, but often runs out of inventory space.
This is a VERY GOOD potion of treasure finding farm that generally shocked me when I stumbled upon it.  In this video it's one of the more popular farms – just because it's potential to tap into soo many different markets (especially if you are a skinner).  It takes place at the pit of scales near the foot of the uldum river.  It allows you to not only gather tiny treasure chests faster than any other spot, but also awards an obscene amount of leather.  Just step on the eggs and 5 crocolisk will attach to your character.  Kill them all and start skinning them.  There are 6 egg spawns with very short respawn timers surrounding the area.  You will literally never be waiting for respawns.  Again, skinning is a must to take advantage of this mega spot – and even though, I feel only a handful of farms surpass this one, It's truely my favorite.
Allied races are variants of existing races. The Void Elves are a version of Night Elves, while the Highmount Tauren are, you guessed it, a version of the Tauren. Four allied races are already in the game before launch and two more, the Dark Iron Dwarves and Mag’har Orcs, were added after Battle for Azeroth launched. Each Allied Race has its own racial abilities. You can also unlock a heritage armor set by leveling any Allied Race to the level cap.

Nov 6 are twinks an issue in high level pvp hello i have not played since cat and when i found out accounts were upgraded to the last xpack i started played without a sub. i mainly like to pvp but the 20-29 bracket is won by who has the most twinks so the result is either a slaughter or a carry neither of these are fun for anyone who likes competitive gameplay. i also feel like i have little to no impact on the outcome or outside running flags (if i'm not 3 shoted by a twink). it seems no matter how skilled the player is if you don't have the gear you're not going to do well. anyway is every bracket like this or is this just a issue with 10-19/20-29 brackets? i know 10-19 is unplayable if your not twinked. i'm sorry i didn't sub last xpack it sounded like pvp was better than.Piale3 Nov 6
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